Venture With Joe and Cody
Venture with Joe and Cody is a captivating journey into the lives and stories of business leaders, entrepreneurs, and pivotal community figures, revealing the essence of success through candid conversations. Tune in to discover the setbacks, triumphs, and invaluable lessons learned on the path to making a mark in the business world and beyond.
Venture With Joe and Cody
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Joe and Cody take a break from their usual real estate and mortgage topics to explore the challenges of self-censorship in their professional lives and share their excitement about the Masters Tournament.
• The struggle of wanting to make humorous comments on social media while maintaining professional appearances
• How leaving politics behind brought unexpected peace and reduced stress
• Recent market volatility related to tariff announcements creating an uncertain economic environment
• ChatGPT's deep research feature for analyzing Masters Tournament betting opportunities
• The psychology behind golf equipment purchases and whether new clubs actually improve performance
• Comparing the value of brand-name golf equipment versus budget-friendly alternatives like Kirkland
• The appeal of the Masters Tournament and its traditions, including affordable concessions and phone-free environment
If you're interested in chatting about golf, real estate, or just want to connect, reach out to Joe at Skipper Realty Group or Cody at Residential Mortgage in Washington.
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Venture with Joe and Cody. I am Joe Skipper, as most of you may know, the owner of Skipper Realty Group, brokered by EXT Realty in Oregon, with my friend Cody Wilhelm with a residential mortgage up in the Washington area.
Speaker 2How are you Washington, washington, washington.
Speaker 1I always get your city messed up. I don't want to say where you live, though you can say where I live. I don't want to say where you live, though you know you can say where I live, like I don't want to put your address out there.
Speaker 2Maybe I will. I don't know, put it out there. We don't get enough mail you need a loan.
Speaker 1Come on, just come on by, like just don't come on by during dinner.
Speaker 2We got kids. Unless we're prepared for you, right, I've got a story for you, but I won't tell it on here. I'll have to tell you about it. Yeah, sometimes when people have your address it's not always they can become stalkers.
Speaker 1Ooh, yeah. Well, you're an attractive man, you've got a personality. It's very hard to keep them off. Keep the stalkers at bay, all of them. All of them. It seems like a weekly occurrence at this point, right, yeah, it seems like a weekly occurrence at this point, right, yeah, it just gets to be.
Speaker 2You know, I'm flattered by it all. But guys, come on, come on, I'm married, I'm happily married. I've got kids.
Speaker 1Not a lot of time on my hands, calm it down Speaking of stories that we wish we could tell man, it's like we need to, I think we need to retire. Or when we retire, we just like go off on every story we had that we couldn't say yes of the different things, because obviously we talk off air about certain things we've had happen recently and we're like man yeah just to vent I've thought about that so many times over the years.
Speaker 2like man, if I didn't have a job where I had to really like care about what people thought of me, I probably wouldn't do anything.
Speaker 1I probably wouldn't either, but I feel like I feel, yeah right, I wouldn't feel so restricted.
Speaker 2I'm not going to post this anyways, but, man, if I wanted to, I could I could have, like I could have, I think, the same thing I'm like you know sometimes, especially like I don't have.
Speaker 1I have my opinions, uh, you know, as everyone does, but especially like with things on facebook that people say I always. I generally want to joke, but jokes can come off as like very rude and I'm very sarcastic.
Speaker 1So, even like friends that have different political beliefs or something, I always just want to make a comment that's funny to me, right? One, it's probably not appropriate and two, it just reflects on me. So yeah, and it's not even like, it's not even against a d or an r or anything like that. Yes, everyone, I just want to make funny comments on everyone's stuff, no matter how serious it is.
Speaker 2Huh I know, I I'm with you because a lot of times it's not even something that is a big thing one way or the other. Yeah, it's just like. Half the time it's just something really stupid. I know, and I'm like man, I, I would love to put that out there, I know, but I, I know I shouldn't I know I just read an article from a friend and and and I just like I had it's a terrible thing, probably.
Speaker 1It's probably a terrible quality. I have that in my mind. I'm like man, what could I say about this? Like what, what joke could I? What one liner could I say that would spur them along? And then, but I know the comments would be like oh, you are insensitive, blah, blah blah right so yeah, anyways I just keep my mouth shut. Yeah, I know when we retire.
Speaker 2Sometimes it's the best thing, but there's definitely, you know what. We're only a couple years away from retirement age, I think. Right right, just like another lifetime. I wish.
Speaker 1I wish you think about how short life is, though. I'm like man people do work to like 60-something years old and then, once your body's all broke down, you can't do anything. You don't have to work, but yeah now you're going to have a heart attack. So, yeah, that's great Awesome, I know Anyways work but yeah now you're gonna have a heart attack.
Speaker 2So, yeah, yeah, that's great awesome, I know. Anyways, let's just quit now, let's just. That's why we. That's why we do it, though. That's why we do this.
Speaker 1That's why we do this because yes we like what we do and we enjoy it practically retirement right here yeah, true, we're look like. Look at us complaining, like as we're on a podcast joking about making fun of people like so so we have it pretty tough.
Speaker 2We do, we do.
Speaker 1Hey, serious note don't make fun of people for one and two Never would. What's so the tariff stuff. What's happening in your mortgage world, as you see daily, the tariff things going on.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, it seems like there's just a lot of uncertainty right now. So, from what I've seen, so today, as of today, what I saw before we got on here, was that they were it was throwing a wrench in things, and now it appears that there's a pause, like a 90 day pause for some countries. Oh okay, I don't know exactly.
Speaker 1So we're airing this Friday probably.
Speaker 2Yeah, so Wednesday Not completely up to date, but right, but there was, so it'll be interesting on friday or saturday to look at this.
Speaker 1I know and see what's happening.
Speaker 2You liars yeah, but since that announcement there's been like this huge reversal in the stock market. So yeah, it's just been weird because there's not really a lot of consistency. I think a lot of it is like the rumors create a reaction and then the reality creates another reaction, and then it's like reaction after reaction.
Speaker 2So right now it kind of feels like a little bit of early COVID or early 2022, like when rates were just really uncertain because everything else seemed to be kind of uncertain. So it's just like big movements one way or the others. All that to say it's it's just causing a lot of chaos, but really not sure which direction it's going to which way to really go, or if it's just going to kind of bounce around high and low and then level back out which is kind of like from an overview kind of thing.
Speaker 1It's kind of scary how fickle everything is, because there was one and I don't know. There was some rumor that came out and it posted on x. I just saw a little glimpse, so don't attack me on, you know, on my comments of like me not knowing what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2But somewhere, someone started.
Speaker 1Someone started a rumor like said something that like Trump was going to do X, and it made the stocks like immediately go up or down, or something like that, and then they had to apologize. And the stocks reacted the inverse way. I'm like that's crazy.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I don't know a better economy than America, right? However, I'm like the fact that we like-post changed a portfolio of someone by what? Hundreds thousands? Millions of dollars, depending on how much they had in it. That's crazy to think about, Barring the mortgage rates, the fact that some person can change something so easily. Man, I feel like it's house of cards. A little bit it is.
Speaker 2Yeah, for sure, because it doesn't feel like there should be that reality. I know, but it is. That somebody says something.
Speaker 1I know.
Speaker 2And for better or worse, it has a huge shift in things and I will say, a lot of times it ends up getting reversed, you know, after a couple days, I know, but it's like the bounce back and forth is just nutso. Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, I just I wonder if it is House of Cards, I wonder if we are living in it and we just so don't know it. You know, probably, don't give me a thumbs down.
Speaker 2That was for you that was not for me. It's like no dude, it's scary I'm bad with movies and shows what's worry.
The Politics Detox Effect
Speaker 1What worries me about that stuff is that someone did some research to find out. You know that maybe some of it's true, if that makes sense yeah like you have to do your kind of oppo and bio research into making a show or a movie of what's real, what's not, and you obviously expand on it to make it more exciting. But I'm like, yeah, I know I don't know. At this point, I don't doubt anything know, I feel like over the years, anything could be real, anything.
Speaker 2Over the years I felt like I just kind of kept a blindfold on and went about my day. Yeah, and over time I'm like you know, I think there's a lot more that goes on that I don't know about and that we don't know about. And do I care enough to like try to figure it out? I know More than I did before, but not really.
Speaker 1I don't know, man, I don't care.
Speaker 2There's enough going on that you have to care about.
Speaker 1Yeah, that I have to care, but there were times that I was like I'm just happy when I got out of politics. I wasn't in politics but I was with politics man. The peace that came over me when I didn't have to think about it every single day or hear about it every single day.
Speaker 1I still talk to my friends who are still in politics and I'm like how do you do it? Like I've left it and I wasn't even in it, I wasn't even in the world, like I was just monitoring it and like I didn't even realize, when I left, that stress being gone and like my friends are still doing it and love it. My brother does it and I'm like how, how do you do this on a daily basis, right?
Speaker 2Because you were close to it, did you find yourself more involved in it, just because obviously that was part of your business more or less?
Speaker 1And then, as you get away, you realize, oh, I don't need to care about this as much, or don't want to. It was such a nitty gritty because you're with the most powerful person in the state and so you're hearing everything. You're seeing everything, your job. Yes, we don't talk about it on a constant basis, but your job was being around the person that talks about politics on a regular basis, so you just, by default, had to hear it.
Speaker 1And then you and then you have the friends that you can make within her, her staff, and you know, and you, you hear it, because that's their job, you know, they're talking about their job. So you just, kind of indirectly and directly, just were living the life of that of a politician. I was like, wow, I don't have to care what decision was made or what speech was given, that's going to make someone mad or happy, or whatever you know so that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1It's just kind of brought a peace to me. I still tell my friends I'm like you got to take like a sabbatical off this crap. Like you know, just leave it for a little bit.
Speaker 2But I mean I I couldn't imagine I go through waves where, like I will, I will pay more attention to the news, I'll kind of like look at more articles and and every time I do it doesn't matter what season of life.
Speaker 1I'm in, yeah.
Speaker 2Every time I'm like it just kind of ends up being a little more frustrating, and there's just all these things and I'm like I, I don't need this. I want to stay informed. I think that's the thing right. It's like you want to kind of stay up to date on what's going on, what's out there. I don't want to be the person that's just like has no clue, but every time I do kind of start to depressed. Constantly, every time I deep dive into it, I'm like I think I need to stop for a little while, because this is.
Speaker 2I can see why people go a little bit crazy like super radical one way or the other, because you're just looking at it from. You know. I think most people are looking at it through their lens right. So it's hard to step back and look at it from both sides and kind of try to get a good mix of both. So whatever side of it is that you're on, it can be very frustrating and before you know it you're like that's what some of your conversations end up being like.
Masters Week and Betting Strategies
Speaker 1And let's go back to sports and kids talk and like what did you do this weekend? For sure, speaking of sports, we have the Masters, we do, and so here's what I did. So I'm not a crazy bettor, but I like to draft kings, you know, like pick, parlay bets and do random stuff. So in my wisdom, which I'm sure everyone in society has done, the bets is ask chat gpt.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, go to the chat but no, I went one step further with chat gpt. There's now a deep research button that you can push with chat gpt. So, by the way, anyone listening that actually wants anything productive out of cody and I today, this is what you're going to get and then it's not coming out again. But ChatGPT has a deep research button that basically makes it delve further into the internet and resources to find out things that you need. So in the event that you have to research something or you have to find out for a client what X is doing or whatever like, if you press deep research it takes like probably five minutes, but Chad GBT will go in deep and find a bunch of resources. Cite the resources, say what they think, say what based on this. So really cool thing. So serious note, serious note.
Speaker 1I had a it. I said I want to bet on the masters. I need you to do some deep research into historic facts of the golfers and current things that are going on with golfers and where you think that I my best bets. I want some high risk bets, I want some low risk bets and I want you know, here's the money I want to spend, and I want to.
Speaker 1I want to see what you suggest. Um, so I have some. You know, I have the, the, I have one with rory winning. Okay, yep, I have scheffler and rory top 10. You know, some of those are some of the safer bets, you know those sort of things I think I have hideki uh winning, I don't know so.
Speaker 1So it kind of went through its process and told me why I think I should bet and how much I should bet for each one and what it would win me and like. If this bet wins, then it makes up for any of the bets you take that are higher risk. So anyways, we'll follow up in a podcast and see if I'm a millionaire.
Speaker 2Well, we'll see if you're really positive.
Speaker 1You're like a hundred air right Cause it's not that much money, but uh, to me it was enough to to trust chat, chat, GBT.
Speaker 2So, but uh, to me it was enough to to trust chat gbt, so I like it anyways. The masters do you watch it? Are you? I do? Okay, I love, I like watching golf a lot and the masters has always been one of those that it's like the main one that I love to watch, I think growing up that everyone likes the masters yeah, my dad would watch golf here and there, but it was. I always remembered the masters as a kid. It was just such a cool event.
Speaker 2It was such a big, yeah, it's like it's like the biggest tournament, um, or at least that's what I think. A lot of people think yep, yep, and so it's just fun, like I I remember. Yeah, I don't know when I've missed a masters, really yeah, I think like not not all four rounds yeah, yeah, but like at least watching and then trying to watch as much as I can on sunday I know I'm trying to get into it.
Speaker 1Like in my office I have a tv and I just like having it in the background like just kind of on thursday, friday, you know, just kind of see what goes on. The problem with some of those things is as I hate it is that if you monitor stuff on your phone, you you know what's happened. But I want to watch it live, more or less, and so they're broadcasting. It just makes me so mad In the beginning it's normally the beginning days because it's like whatever they do.
Speaker 1No one really follows that, but I'm like I didn't want to know that they were cut or I didn't want to know that they are in the lead or whatever, but anyways.
Speaker 2I have it on in the background.
Speaker 1You know are in the lead or whatever. But anyways, I have it on the background and I'm not a cute. I was a huge tiger woods fan, like I watched golf a ton with tiger woods. When he left and live kind of happened, I kind of backed off a little bit. I think some of the star players kind of leaving I know that hurts yeah, but rory mcelroy, like I like a lot my son's named not named after him, but has the same name.
Speaker 2Same name. Yeah, you got to pull for him.
Speaker 1So yeah, do you have anyone that you're going for?
Speaker 2Well, I did a. I've got a group of friends that we do a like a master's pool thing and I think I want to say there's like nine of us, maybe something like that, so each of us gets to pick four golfers. So it goes in kind of a draft order. So you, you can't overlap, yeah, so it's to win and or just cumulative best score with all of your players so it's kind of fun.
Speaker 2So I got um, I got bryson dechambeau and hideki and robert mcintyre and wyndham clark okay, those are pretty good, those are my guys I'm rooting for this week. Those are pretty good. Yeah, it's kind of fun.
Speaker 1Yeah, I heard like there's a lot of hype behind Rory. Yeah, just cause he's this, this would complete his, his grand slam, his grand slam. So, but that was last year too. There's a lot of hype, you know. So, right, hopefully, hopefully. Chad GPT told me that he's he's doing well this season, so he's one of the favorites.
Speaker 2I think scotty scheffler is like the top favorite, and then I think rory was in second or third, which is insane. He's been playing good.
Speaker 1He's won two tournaments this year already two masters.
Speaker 2Scheffler did he yeah I think he won last year and then I think it was hideki that won it the year.
Speaker 1Okay, okay that guy and then is completely dominated. In golf he's good, completely dominated.
Speaker 2He's super humble and his swing like his swing, I think makes everybody, the average golfer, feel like maybe they have a chance.
Speaker 1Well, some of those golfers like even their physique. You're like man, I could be a golfer right, I could be a pro golfer if I just dedicate my life to this, yeah, which is funny because golf is such a you know I I told you last week I need to quit golf or get lessons because I'm terrible at pinehurst. But yeah that's all right. It makes me like seeing those guys. I'm like how does a 140 pound dude rip it 310 yards regular?
Speaker 2yeah, like there's something.
Speaker 1Obviously it's physics and it's like it is. I'm not using physics to my advantage because I've got a lot more weight on him and I can put a lot more power behind, yeah, behind my shot, and I don't, yeah, and so they're using their whole body and we're using our arms yep, yep and my and I hit it so like I'm getting.
Speaker 1I was like my nephew was there and my brother was there and they're like making fun of me every time, even if I hit it straight. I was like 25 yards behind them, 25 like I'm my dad, like and it's all because my form is so terrible. I'm sure it's like I'm not doing something, like I think you're right, I think I'm upper body and nothing is part of my legs and so, which means I need to get new clubs. Well, that fixes everything.
Speaker 2It's either the club or the ball, or the glove or the shoes.
Golf Club Adventures and Upgrades
Speaker 1Technology has changed and I've been trying to tell Christina this is. Technology's changed to my benefit. I have had those clubs since I graduated college. So it's those are 15, 16 year old clubs. Don't give me the thumbs down. Okay, they're 15. Those are old clubs.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Those are like basically woods. Those are classics. Those are like basically woods. Those are classics, you know, and so I feel like I need it.
Speaker 2Well, I don't know if this is going to help you or hurt you in that journey, but I got new clubs a handful of years ago, okay, and I thought because my clubs were old garage sale clubs, they were like Wilson yeah, yeah, they worked great for me. But I got to this point where I was getting into golf enough where I thought this is my next step to like put me up to kind of the pro status. So I got got all new irons, couple new woods and I went out and played and it was probably one of the worst rounds of golf that I have played.
Speaker 2But you have to break them in you know you had to break them in you have to do, you have to do some rounds, you gotta get some rounds under your belt. It took me a lot of rounds, and now I expect to just go out and dominate with new clubs.
Speaker 2I don't know if I'm just used to everything or if I've just kind of like plateaued, but it did get a little bit better. But I don't know if that has anything to do with my clubs or if that's just playing more golf over the last three or four years that I've since I've had them. But did you get?
Speaker 1fitted. It is fun I did. And what? What brand I went with? Taylormade, yep, the Sims, simmax, I think, is what they are. Now that I'm getting into all the stuff they golf stuff, they on TikTok, it's like all these guys are like what does your club choice, like, what does your brand say about you? So I'm like that's how I'm doing my research into the clubs that I want to get right one that I've always.
Speaker 2I've never played them before. I'm definitely not a great golfer by any means, or know a lot about it, but I've never heard anybody say anything bad about ping yes, I've had a lot of people actually really like ping, and then also mizuno yeah, mizuno is another one and it's, uh, it's a weird name s starts with an s um shrixon, shrixon yeah, like they had one of the reviews said they're actually like really good clubs.
Speaker 1I have cleveland and I. I went in never thinking cleveland would be a thing for me, because I was the first time I got fitted. I was like, oh, I'm getting like taylor mayhater title yeah, I want to get.
Speaker 2That's what I'm getting. Who are the big guys playing? I want to play those.
Speaker 1I kept going back to cleveland like I was hitting them better at the fitting than any other club by far, really, and so yeah, but I like the idea of ping. I just think it's like a unique brand I need to stop, stop going off of like aesthetics or title and actually go with what's going to make me work, but I'm like yeah, paying is nice.
Speaker 2Yeah, see, when I did mine, I didn't have a choice between, it was just a tailor-made. Oh, it was a tailor-made place, guy at a golf course. So I only had the choice between the tailor-made options and I just went with that. Not that I would have changed anything, but I think it would have been fun to compare pair you know for sure three or four different brands with each other and see how they fit and feel and but yeah, I went to.
Speaker 1I'm happy with my clubs I went to redtail in beaverton which has. You know, I think it depends on the guy you get or the gal you get, like the co, you know whoever's fitting you. Mine was really good.
Speaker 1My dad's went in and said he didn't have the greatest experience, but they were really good, like just let me hit as many as I wanted and went back and forth between clubs and went. But old professional John Daly I saw on TikTok said and with Bryson was there said that you need to get fitted. No one gets fitted for their grip. And he's like the grip is what you need to get fitted for before the club. And he said interesting, majority of people would be better golfers if they had a thicker grip on their club. I was like that's really interesting. So yeah, so I haven't looked into getting fitted for grips while the club, you know. But he did have either a thicker.
Speaker 1I didn't even know there was a thing of a thicker grip. I knew putters had, you know, the thick grips if you wanted them yeah he's like golfers would be better if they had thicker grips I know bryson does that like thick.
Speaker 2It's almost like a putter grip on all of us.
Speaker 1He's like everything a thicker grip is going to help you play better golf. So weird maybe do clubs and new grips. Man here I come maybe, so, maybe so you could tell I bought like 15 years ago because I was like, oh yeah, like you know, like some nice clubs are probably like 600 bucks or something like that, my brother's like you're an idiot.
Speaker 2He's like.
Speaker 1That'll get you a driver he's like the clubs are like 1600. I'm like that is insane crazy it's an investment because I've kept clubs. I've shown I can keep clubs for 15, 20 years.
Speaker 2So well, and that's that was my thought. Behind it, too, was I'm not gonna get new clubs again, and if I do, it's because I'm like old and hunched over and I need something different. But I have no old and hunched over and I need something different, but I have no reason or want to get anything different for a long time.
Speaker 1But yeah, they're expensive. That's crazy. And you got them? How long?
Speaker 2ago. I want to say I got them maybe 2019 okay, they're not too long ago 29. Maybe maybe it's 2020, because I do remember there being a little bit of a covid slow on the production of things, so maybe it was like mid 2020. Nice, and they've been great. I'm happy with them. They've stayed in good shape. What's your handicap? I think I'm at like a 10 and a half or 11. Somewhere around there, but that's.
Speaker 1I never feel like that's accurate. I really don't. I would agree with you on that, because I think mine is technically a 17 or something like that, like basically bogey golf and I'm like I rarely play bogey golf. I don't know where you're getting these numbers Like right. Well, like it's literally double bogey golf.
Speaker 2Yeah, Like I sure I it's. It's cool to see that.
Speaker 2But then when I like, especially when I go and play in an event or something, with friends where we actually use the handicaps, and then I realize I'm not an 82 consistent type of golfer. I'm more of like sure I can have some low 80s, but I'm like an 85, 86, 87 is probably more where my norm is, and so it's like man, I got gotta shoot an 82 just to to be even here, yeah. And then you play against somebody that's like a 22, you're like I can't beat you yeah, there's no way.
Speaker 1I had two strokes on every hole. It is interesting how it does that, because it doesn't seem like it's just based on like your average as you keep going, because it always seems like it's like I'm not adjusting any and I just hit a terrible round Right. And it's not changing my score, and it needs to, or my handicap, and it needs to do that.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1Well, that's my next, next adventure. I just hinted at it for Father's Day, but I don't think Christina knows how much they cost. She's like, oh yeah, I'll get you clubs for Father's Day. There's going to be that bad. Two hundred dollars, maybe Right, maybe right. Yeah, we'll start with one club this year and next year.
Speaker 2I got a pitching wedge this year, they're gonna work my way up to a full set. Yeah, you know, what's not expensive is the food at the masters have you seen the menu of that?
Speaker 1I've heard that like two, like old, two to four dollar sandwiches. Love it yeah, yeah that's the way to go. They had a they had. You can't have phones there, you gotta leave them in your car, I think yeah yeah, um. Or someone said to leave them in your car, because it's like if you get caught with them you're just booted um, which I kind of appreciate that yeah, me too it would be a, it would be a bucket list thing to go to to watch the masters um to play the masters would be a bucket list thing too, but yeah, yeah I think it's more likely.
Speaker 1I think it's more likely. I think it's more likely. I just go watch it.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well once you get those clubs, you never know, Dude the new clubs, the new technology. I could be there for sure.
Speaker 1Yeah, do you do the tailor-made Like? Do you do like? Are you sponsored by tailor-made? Do you have the bag? You have the? You know. You basically have to show that you're a tailor-made guy. Yeah, okay, no, I don't, but oh, you don't.
Speaker 2No, I think I do have everything, Like my drivers. I think all my clubs are tailor-made, Even though I didn't get them all at the same time. I did kind of like that idea of just keeping with the same brand, but I don't play tailor-made balls or have a tailor-made bag brand. But I don't play tailor-made balls or have a tailor-made bag. I do like. I think I'm a little like tailor-made is kind of my. I feel like I have a little bit of ownership in that brand because I have the club. So I do like the brand, but I've never really been brand loyal when it comes to golf stuff. I think there's some that I just don't I'm not as attracted to, and then others that I am a little bit more, but yeah I'm, I'm not as attracted to, and then others that I am a little bit more, but yeah I'm, I'm always open to rocking the tailor-made nice, nice.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're gonna go a different route in this podcast, but I feel like this is just fine, staying on golf this works great yeah the master's weekend, right, yeah, so we've got a. We've got to talk about golf. I do use a mallet putter or a um.
Speaker 2I do yes.
Speaker 1Wait now thinking about yes like there's, like the blade, which is the thin it's like the block. Yeah, well, there's the mallet's like the bigger block, one like that yeah like that and then yes the blade is the more thin one, that like tyler woods went you know used and stuff the camera I can't.
Speaker 2For some reason, I've never felt like I've been very good with the blade I want to go with the blade, but again I am terrible, so I.
Speaker 1So I'm like I'm open to anything, like I have. No, I have no loyalty to any part of golf right now. Like I get you could give me anything, I'd be like, yeah, worth a shot.
Putting Styles and Wish.com Scotty Camerons
Speaker 2Right Putting is one of those things that I really cause. I got a new putter not at the same time that I got the new clubs but it was probably a year or so after maybe, cause putting was always been one of those like. I've never felt good about putting, never that's one that I should get some lessons on. Um, so I got the.
Speaker 2I got a new putter and I thought that it was going to be the game changer for me, and turns out you actually still have to you still know how to putt yeah it really didn't help me at all, but I will say I've gotten used to it over the years that I feel like it's at least more consistent, rather than trying to tweak everything all the time Because I had two different putters and every once in a while I'd swap out the other one, because I can't make anything with this one, so this other one's got to work.
Speaker 1I think another bucket list thing would be to get a Scotty Cameron putter. For me that just is like a super nice and I'll keep it forever, Like give it to my kids when I'm well, you know right, it's just a matter of like, which one do I want to work with, Cause I do want to commit to one or the other, but Scotty Cameron, I feel like that's like a.
Speaker 2I don't know, it's kind of the better putters yeah.
Speaker 1I got a.
Speaker 2Scotty Cameron off Wish you know what.
Speaker 1Wish is. It's kind of like the old Timu.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know if they're the same or not. Yeah, and I was like, oh dude, let's try this thing out. It's definitely a Wish. Scotty Cameron putter.
Speaker 1Scotty spelled weird's like yeah s-k-o-t-y. I mean, it looks but I got it for 50 bucks, so it's exactly right, yeah I.
Speaker 2I got it for that reason of like hey maybe this is just like a decent putter. That's obviously a knockoff, but it looks kind of like it and I got it and it's like it's. It's what you'd expect it to be. So funny would you ever wear?
Speaker 1or wear a fake Rolex on that note like would you ever buy a fake watch, like a fake high-end luxury watch, or do you have?
Speaker 2I don't think so no, okay, but that's not me being. That's really just because I either just wear like the little apple watch yeah or I wouldn't wear a watch okay, okay.
Speaker 1So if I was a watch guy, yeah, I would. I just I'm all about a deal like of like you know, the bougie people, it's like wine. It's like the bougie people are like they're boxed wine, it's like well, it's cheap and I like it exactly it tastes the same to me I was like, would I, I think, the problem with wearing a?
Speaker 1he had this, this funny story because he said he was a watch guy. It was the two watch guys talking. He's like would you ever wear a fake watch? Or do you judge people for wearing a fake? You know high-end watch? And he's like there's this funny story if you look at some of the stuff of I forget what war it was, but basically the Taliban we had beaten it.
Speaker 1Maybe it was, I forgot what war it was, but basically they had these pictures of these taliban like arm and arm with with different people and they had these patek is it? I forget, my mind's gone blank patek watches, like basically, okay, multi thousands, eighty thousand dollar watches and they'd have they had a ton of them because they were all fake. And so the tiffany blue it was like the tiffany blue is a super specific one. He's like they only made like a hundred or something and like every Taliban fighter had like a silver but tech, like it was like it was like it was just funny because it was all fake. But, um, I just was like, could I do it? I think I would be hard to, I don't care. Like I think it'd be rolex. But like what if they ask you?
Speaker 2like that. It's like no, it's not a rolex like yeah you know, I wouldn't be able to lie, you know right, because really the guy was arguing was like no one can tell, like, honestly, no one a good fake, no one could.
Speaker 1Even you could look at it, you could examine it, unless you take it apart you wouldn't even know. It's not a rolex, but, right um, I was like I just don't know if I could do it, because I'd have I think that would be the hard part too is if somebody asked like whoa? Wow, got a rolex. I'm like no yeah I paid, I paid 40, right, they're like oh yeah, nice loser it's actually.
Speaker 2I don't like you at all, like you know so anyways, I don't think I could do it either I don't know that I could do it. I can do it with certain things, like I'm all about finding a deal because there's a lot of stuff that I. I just maybe maybe it's just me, but I feel like the the name of the brand of things ends up increasing the cost. So much.
Speaker 2So I'm like, if I don't, care and I feel like over time, I care less and less about the brand, which is probably kind of just transitioning me into my elder years too, for sure. But yeah, if I can find something that is comparable, that if it doesn't have the logo on there.
Speaker 1I don't care. That's interesting with golf because kirkland wedges, yeah, like everyone is like these kirkland wedges are awesome. I want to try them, but they say kirkland and people are like right and tie them. But everyone like I think my brother has the kirkland wedges and he's like he's got taylor made clubs, but he's like they're awesome, he's like I've heard that and they're putter yeah, yeah, and I've played the kirkland balls.
Speaker 2I like the kirkland balls.
Speaker 1But that's like just getting over that, like getting over yourself, really you know, it's like people could tell you until they're blue in the face that Kirkland's better and they're like, oh, it's Kirkland, I'll go pay twice as much, yeah, or Cleveland.
Speaker 2Exactly Perfect. We can both hit our balls in the trees.
Speaker 1Yeah, exactly, we can both try to hit out of the sand twice, but yeah, it's crazy. But, having, oh, what was I just going to say about that the brand? Can't remember, anyways, but having, oh, what was I just going to say about that, the brand?
Speaker 2can't remember. Anyways, yeah, I'm curious to see if Kirkland's going to come out with like a full set, because I saw their wedges a little bit ago.
Speaker 1It may not be where we are, but it is. I do think that one of the reviews was reviewing Kirkland clubs.
Speaker 2The full set.
The Kirkland Dilemma and Costco Life
Speaker 1I think they might be in America somewhere, but they're not where we shop at Costco. But he was reviewing them. He's like they're good clubs. What it said about you he was like he's like you're probably a cool guy, but you're probably a bad golfer, but you're probably, you know, like basically, yeah, you're reasonable, you want something cheap, you don't care about the brand, but you're also, yeah, you're, you're playing kirkland clubs, you're playing costco brand clubs so yes um I don't know if I could get over doing that for all of my irons, but I could.
Speaker 1I could see myself doing. You know the wedges.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean at this point in my life with how much my wife shops at Costco. Our house is mostly Kirkland.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, like for sure.
Speaker 2Probably everything I'm wearing right now is Kirkland. Like at this point, I might as well just transition to my golf game as well, it's so funny.
Speaker 1Costco is just great man.
Speaker 2It's just like there's really nothing bad to say about them. No, I mean the. The quality is always good.
Speaker 1Yeah, return policy is great, all our snowboarding stuff like all the you know the snowboard pants for the kids. For me, like I'm just like they're good quality and they're like $20, like where you pay $90 for a pair of pants that have a brand name on them.
Speaker 2Yeah, that you're going to wear a handful of times each year and then they're going to be too small for them the next year.
Speaker 1Yeah, lifevest, all that stuff I'm like for boating and stuff. I'm like Costco has it for $30. It's like $80 for a vest or a LifeVest somewhere else. So, anyways, costco's great somewhere else so anyways, costco's great, but it is okay, man well enjoy the masters this weekend. I hope yeah you too.
Speaker 2Um, I hope I win too and I hope I hope you do. Fine, maybe we can. It sounds like we both got a little bit on hideki, so maybe we can. I did have him capitalize with that at least top 20 probably.
Speaker 1I think I might have hedged and said he might win, but yeah, I don't know okay so I like it okay, my man. Well, it's good to talk to you.
Speaker 2We'll talk you too next time. All right, sounds good okay see ya.
