Venture With Joe and Cody
Venture with Joe and Cody is a captivating journey into the lives and stories of business leaders, entrepreneurs, and pivotal community figures, revealing the essence of success through candid conversations. Tune in to discover the setbacks, triumphs, and invaluable lessons learned on the path to making a mark in the business world and beyond.
Venture With Joe and Cody
Sometimes You Just Need to Open Doors and Kill Bees
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Joe and Cody explore how economic uncertainty is affecting the real estate market and share stories of their worst jobs before entering the industry.
• Market volatility is driven by economic uncertainty rather than interest rates
• Job security concerns are making potential buyers hesitate despite getting comfortable with higher interest rates
• Difficult political decisions often hurt some people while benefiting the majority
• Government spending cuts cause short-term pain but may be necessary for long-term sustainability
• Cody's worst job was removing honeycomb for a bee remediation company in California
• Joe worked as a tuxedo-wearing door opener at Spirit Mountain Casino
• Growing up with farm work and manual labor provided valuable life experiences that today's children may miss
• Different jobs throughout life help people discover their preferences and shape who they become
Reach out if you'd like to be a guest on the podcast - we'd love to have different voices join our conversations!
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Venture with Joe and Cody. I'm Joe Skipper, I'm the owner of Skipper Realty Group, brokered by eXp Realty, and I'm with Cody Wilhelm, as always, with Residential Mortgage. What's going on, man? Here I am Just living it up, you know, in the flesh. I still love your background of your little studio, thank you. If you're not listening, if you're listening online, then you need to go to our videos which, by the way, for people that do want to pay attention, we are backlogged on our videos uploading, like the video portion of our podcast. The audio goes out regularly, but the video portion. It was my fault when we first started this stupid, stupid podcast.
Speaker 2This amazing podcast. It's just when I started stupid people trying to do a good podcast.
Speaker 1No, just when I started the people but stupid people trying to do a good podcast. No, when I started it it was. I assumed it was just dumb on my part and I was meaning. That's why I was being stupid is a dumb thing on my part that I thought YouTube, when I uploaded it, it was gonna upload the video. It just uploads the audio. So the system we use uploads audio automatically. Video doesn't. I don't want to overload youtube with like our episodes, so I'm just like slowly getting back into it. So eventually, this.
Speaker 2We don't want to break the internet yes, that's exactly.
Speaker 1That is exactly why I'm not doing that, because it just it will be too overwhelming, it's too much going viral. Being famous is going to be too difficult for us right now. We're not ready for it, and so we haven't prepped our families.
Speaker 1They know what's coming, but no, not really I just think a slow, a slow drip into the system will get us that that popularity. But anyways, the videos will be there. It's just slow rolling Cause I'm like trying to put out one a week of the previous historical videos, just so people can have something to see. Yeah, that's, that's so, anyways, the whole point. You know you might not see cody's studio for a little bit. You'll hear the audio of this and then you'll see the video.
Speaker 2Yes, you can just imagine what it looks like and then you'll see it and you'll go all right, it's kind of well I hyped it up for quite a school pretty soon. Once I actually do it, it'll look even better yeah I can't share anything else it's just, it's going to involve my.
Market Volatility and Economic Uncertainty
Speaker 1I can change my lighting. Look at that boom oh, there you go, now we're matching kind of matches my hat, my pink lion, yeah, purple and anyways so you know I want to briefly go into the market.
Speaker 1But you know, if people pay attention to anything that we do on our real talk we talked about the same stuff is like the market's so volatile right now and it's not the market that's volatile, I would say the economy is so volatile that's causing the market to kind of at least from what I see is people just slowing their roll and buyers kind of just saying I'm okay with the six and a half 7% rate, you know, but I don't know about my job, or I don't know about my wife's job or my partner's job or and what's going to happen. You know and I so I think there's some some hesitation to get into the market, you know right now.
Speaker 1I don't know if you're seeing the same thing.
Speaker 2Yeah, it felt like there was a like a good push at the first part of the year and then I think just things have, things are just a little uncertain and I think that that you know, at times, at times the uncertainty has been maybe targeted towards one type of industry and now it feels like I think it's spread enough where there's just a little bit more, whether you're in schools or obviously anything government related, just with cuts that are happening and or whatever comes from that and depending on how the stock market goes, that's that can make a big change, and especially the bigger companies. So I am seeing more people like in community forums on Facebook of hey, I just lost my job, or my husband just lost his job, or whatever it might be, and I feel like that's something that I haven't, at least, been seeing a lot of in the last handful of years.
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm trying to. Like you know, I think that giving whoever is in power the time to kind of implement plans is, I think, important, but it is, I think. At this point, I think everyone is kind of hesitant you know to do, to make big purchases or to make big decisions. You know, there's always some people like we've got a bunch of people selling right now, we've got some buyers looking. It's just like what we're hearing is kind of yeah it's a little bit.
Walking Political Tightropes
Speaker 1We're just gonna wait and see, or we're gonna see, if you know this works out, and so it's unique to each person. But absolutely, yeah, hopefully the decisions that are being made by politicians are are good and and they're gonna end up, end up benefiting everyone, but we just won't know until we know Absolutely.
Speaker 2Yep, just bring those rates down.
Speaker 1That was a pretty good non-political statement.
Speaker 2It was just an informative, good session. We could end here.
Speaker 1We could like you know I always was thinking of this we could pivot our podcast to be like one way or the other. You know like it's very scary in our world to have a political opinion or a religious opinion or a any opinion like in our world, because we work with such a diverse group of clients, which we love.
Speaker 1But yeah, you, you, we, I listened to a lot of podcasts. I think you listened to a lot of podcasts and and I just I think in that lens of of having one is, do you ever think, like some, some people just go that route? They're like this is what it is, deal with it. You know, and I was like man, could Cody and I do that, like you know, and I'm like I don't think I want to. I just you always get curious. I'm like would the podcast, like you know, show more success or less success or whatever?
Speaker 1you know, from that lens. Does that, I'm sure, the statement type? Podcasts, that kind of go down the route of whatever they are, and I don't. I'm just using joe rogan as an example of just like you know he has.
Speaker 2Everyone knows how he feels yeah, you know, everyone knows his opinion.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was like what if cody and I had our stuff like more like that? You know sort of thing. But I don't know one. I don't know if we have enough topics that people care about our opinion on right, but especially in the market. You know, like you know we could go a certain route of like do we believe in this tariff stuff, do we not?
Speaker 2believe in tariff stuff.
Speaker 1Do we, you know? Do we believe in donald trump? Do we believe in, not, you know whatever right, yeah yeah, I think you lose you?
Speaker 2obviously you lose a portion of an audience and then you probably gain for sure whichever way you're you're leaning towards you probably gain more from that side. So I think it's yeah.
Speaker 1I think once you do, you're just kind of like, okay, I'm gonna lean into this and yeah, you gotta go 110 in and I don't know if I'm ready for that, so I don't know that I am either I don't think that I try to give people, in this case in particular, I'm like nothing. I don't believe that anything could happen over a day, you know, over a week.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1In functioning a government and doing, you know, making it move. A certain way, I think of it like a large ship, it's like, and so I'm trying to just like give it time. You know how much time. Who knows how people are? Going to be like what's their time threshold? But it's like nothing happens overnight. So I'm like, okay, just give it time, We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2So that's fine, yeah, and I think that that's how it should be. You know, on on whatever side you you lean on politically, that's how it should be right, Like, okay, this was maybe, in any case, this wasn't the person that I voted for, but let's just see what happens For sure which I don't feel like most people want to do that no, they want to just go this isn't who I voted for, and so now I'm going to just disagree with everything that's said and because everyone should want the success of the nation, whether it's
Speaker 1absolutely or whoever. But yeah, but you're right. I think there is a certain segment of our population that wants failure on his part, no matter if everything burns down right, and I don't know if that's the best route to go, to be a little bit childish in my opinion.
Speaker 1But yeah, um, yeah, like let's just hope, everything goes really well yeah and we can all be happy and everyone can be happy, exactly, yeah, I think about that. I'm like you think on a microcosm like the the I'm using big words. Today we did our recording really are like another episode and man I need my thesaurus out so I can keep up with you.
Speaker 1No, I just I think that where was I going with this? Oh, like, from a management level, you will never make anyone happy. But then I think of like on a government, or the governor of Oregon or the governor, you know, a state leader or a country leader, like, imagine that exponentially, that you will not make everyone happy. Like, and in the small times that I've been, like you know, leading a group or leading something or making decisions that are going to affect a group, and like you, really, I really like feel for that person. That's like that's going to affect me negatively.
Speaker 1Yeah, the majority of people are going to be good, but that's going to affect me negatively. Affect me negatively. Yeah, the majority of people are going to be good, but that's going to affect me negatively. And I'm like man, like imagine being like a leader, that you're like running millions of people, that you're going to say, well, a million of them are going to be. You know, really, shitty for this.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is going to hurt you, but it's going to help the masses, but the 5 million will be good, you know.
Speaker 1So yeah, it's crazy to think about Like.
Speaker 2I know I good you know.
Speaker 1So, yeah, it's crazy to think about. Like I know, I think we underestimate that. We kind of get it, make it super petty and, like you know, on that note.
Speaker 1That's a great point of me that I just said it's like no, because I saw that with the governor when we worked with the governor is, politics aside, she did struggle with the decisions being made and not struggled with making the decisions, but struggling with the ramifications of the people that didn't, that weren't going to be affected positively from it. You know, and I think we lose sight of that, that these are people and you know, and the governor and I didn't agree on politics and different things, but I could see, I was able to see the inner workings of that and see an actual person making a decision versus like, when they're so far away Donald Trump, all the senators or whatever we can yell and they're stupid or they're doing this great or not it's like it's easy to kind of think that they're like not thinking of anyone.
Speaker 1You know they're just doing it for their own reasons. But it's like I like to think that most people they have to factor in that some people are going to be hurt by the decisions that are going to be made, but in the overall long term it's going to be good. It's like the speed right. It's like there was a limit, that people, scientists and engineers and everything come together and say, hey, 65 miles an hour will probably kill people but it will be the most efficient for the majority of people.
Speaker 1Yes, so like that's kind of the decision they have to make. I think everyone thinks there's this like end game that everyone, every single person, has to be positively impacted by every single decision.
Speaker 2And.
Speaker 1I think we all get wrapped up in that it's like well, that doesn't, I don't like that decision. Okay, well, does it affect you negatively but everyone else positively?
Leadership and Difficult Decisions
Speaker 2or anyway, I'm on a little run here and then, yeah, and then you know big picture too, like, okay, if you keep going down that route like take the government spending, for example you know that becoming more and more of an issue and trying to cut out some of that stuff, yeah, the unfortunate side is the cutting out does mean that people lose their jobs and departments and everything. But then if you look at the other side, okay, if we don't do any of that and it just continues to balloon and balloon and balloon, like at some point we just don't, I mean we already don't have enough money for sure as a country yeah, we're playing an imaginary monopoly game that we're losing.
Speaker 1Yeah, at some point.
Speaker 2I think you have to go through those pains of this for sure. This hurts people for sure, and their jobs and their families and everything, but it just certain things just can't go on forever. And yeah, it's like your own personal spending right, it's like you spend too much and you realize okay, at some point. We're going to have to go through the pain of not having Netflix and Hulu, and all these things and going out to eat and doing everything that we want to do.
Speaker 2We're going to have to buckle down and, yeah, put that antenna up on the house and PB and J it.
Speaker 1I agree, I do think that we have turned a blind eye to a lot of our spending in in the country, and just that. If I'm going to give my personal opinion and I think, no matter who makes the decisions, that something has to be done, like yeah, I don't think anyone can argue that we can continue down the route we've gone as a country and be a country you know, yeah, without addressing issues, which is going to be, hard, like you're going to have to take.
Speaker 1Take stuff away so, but no one likes stuff being taken away. I don't like it either. No, I don't I don't either we don't want all the things I did want to go over and we were talking a little bit about management and things and I wanted to go over with you. I think it'd be fun to talk about your worst jobs before a real estate.
Speaker 1Like I know, you've had a lot of jobs, so what would what would, can you say, let's start with the most, the most horrible job that you have ever had before you became this famous, famous lender, that's on all the time.
Speaker 2Most horrible I've had. I've had a lot of jobs. I don't feel like I necessarily had a lot of bad ones, but the one that initially comes to mind is when I lived in California. I got on with this company and it was a honeybee exterminating slash remediation company.
Speaker 1Like a bees, not honeybee toilets or anything like no like actual bees Okay.
Speaker 2Is there any bees.
Speaker 1I think there's a honeybees toilet. No, Honey bucket. Honey bucket, that's like. Yes, I was like honeybees is like okay. So you're talking bees like good honeybees, good honeybees, yeah.
Speaker 2Actual honeybees. So my job it was just a really small company, but my job was to go in. Somebody would have bees in their walls or in their roof or something, and so there would be people that would go ahead of me and they would get rid of the bees, whether that was just smoking them out or taking them out, however it was, it was. When I got there, everything was supposed to be bee-free, if you will.
Speaker 1So I had to go in and you had a final cleanup and shouldn't have to be dealing with bees.
Speaker 2Yes, I had to go, take the honeycomb out and I'd spray everything, prime it all down, put the house back together. So when I first started that it was fun, it was exciting, like I'd wear my bee suit, because there's just random ones flying around and then after a little bit you kind of get used to the bees and everything. Well, towards the end of my tenure there, the people that would go in front of me were getting worse and worse at what they were doing. So I'd get there and half the time the bees were all still there. So I'd open up somebody's house and it's like this whole ton of bees in there, yeah, the queen inside of their house hanging out, yeah.
Speaker 2Yes, so at this point I'm like scrambling, but the worst one I had it was this really nice house, vacant house. I go in and I take out. I find one of the hives that's in the wall and so I take that out and I got stung on my finger, which wasn't abnormal, right? You get stung all the time.
Speaker 2I've never had. I've never had a reaction to bees stinging me. Well, this time, like my throat started swelling up and I was getting itchy everywhere. And so I call my boss and I'm like hey, just wanted to let you know this is what's going on. And he's like, all right, well, maybe just drink some water. I'm like, okay, that sounds good. So I drink some water and nothing really gets any better. Eventually it ended up going away. But this one I filled up three like big black 50 gallon garbage bags full of honeycomb. Wow.
Speaker 2Just massive right, Clean everything up, Good to go Go back. Get a call like a week later Like hey, you didn't get all the bees. And so I go back and there are. You know, when bees or flies when they'll like run into the wall, they leave those little like poop marks or whatever they are. Well, I go in there and it's this. I mean this is 2006 ish. I mean I don't know how much the house was, but it was in my head. It was like multi-million dollar, really nice home and there are bees everywhere and there's like little dots all over the walls and windows and ceiling, and I go up and in the ceiling even more. There were still two more giant honeycombs, so it was another couple bags worth of honeycombs, and it was that was.
Speaker 2That was the moment for me where I'm like I I, this is, I'm done with this. I can't. That's insane, I can't keep doing it, did they? Because, I got paid per job, so it's like the quicker I could do the job, the more money I could make. And at this point I'm like I'm losing money doing this job anymore, because nobody's doing their job and getting these bees out of here did you know like that company, like you know not to have pita on you, but um, yeah, did they?
Speaker 1did they kill the bees or did you trans, like, locate them or did you?
Speaker 2I don't know, like when I was there and they were still there ability.
Speaker 1He's like I don't know, I don't know anything about, I don't know how they did it I just know that they're.
Speaker 2They did worse and worse at their job as I was working there, so I know for me. I killed him because I couldn't I don't know how to remove.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, cause they're good, I'm sure they probably just gas oh they're great yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2I would imagine that they would go in and they would like I, I think you can just like gas them and they fall asleep or smoke bees and they know how to function all that stuff. So I thought about it. I really want to hear that.
Speaker 1Yeah no, I'm sure at that time they're a little intimidating, obviously, Like I think bees are just intimidating in general, but once, I think, once you get used to them, the honey that they provide, mm. Hmm, yeah, my friend gives me that honey sometimes I'm like I love it.
Worst Jobs Before Real Estate
Speaker 2So me that honey. Sometimes I'm like I love yeah, so just good, so good, yeah. So I'd say that's probably my worst experience. A lot of the other, I did a lot of random jobs, but I didn't necessarily have bad experiences with them I just kind of covered a little bit of every type of work. Yeah, did you have the same?
Speaker 1yeah, I don't think I had a terrible jobs I I I think the most hilarious one, I would say like it was a temporary job for just a few weeks, maybe during christmas or something, and you know, brandon, he was from yamaha, carlton and okay, yeah and I think he runs a successful business in mcminnville now and I haven't talked to him in a while. But anyways, we were young and we were. It was a temporary hiring service you know, business they offered.
Speaker 1We were, for like four weeks, door openers for spirit mountain casino and we wore tuxedos with a top hat and white gloves and, like, all we did was open the door to the spirit really the main doors of spirit casino and now that I look back, we loved it at the time because one you can get tips and we learned like the tricks you have to do with the casino. Now it's not a trick, tip or trick, but like the tricks you have to do with the casino.
Speaker 1It's not a tip or trick, but it's like you have to show the cameras that you got a tip. So if people tip you, you had to like show it up to the camera. You know, like, do a quick like hey show the camera.
Speaker 1Well, it's like to show that you're not doing anything. You know, like, really just like opening doors, like, and it just was so funny to think about now that like, but we got to go because we were temporary employees, they had the, they had service, the service kitchen where you could go get food and you know it's for all the staff and things like that, so you could kind of get back and get free food and yeah, it was like that's like one of my more hilarious jobs. That's funny wait.
Speaker 2So you got tipped for just opening the door for people and we were so stupid because now I would never.
Speaker 1You know, now I would never tip like I would. I wouldn't tip someone for opening the door for me, like in vegas. Sometimes you kind of get a little bit more tippy with you know everyone because that's kind of what the industry is. Yeah, but we were like we were so happy when someone like gave us like five bucks and then like 35 people would come through and give us nothing.
Speaker 2We're like a bunch of cheap skates I know, I know I open the door for you the door back and you're like as you're walking through.
Speaker 1So I think some people didn't like. At spirit mountain, as you know, it's like a it's. It's a good casino, like in oregon it's. It's yeah, it's one of the biggest right, like one of the biggest casinos in oregon. But I think a lot of the clientele were not used to this the service of a white glove top hat, yeah, opening your door. So they were, I think, first confused as to what's going on they felt obligated.
Speaker 1Like this is so nice, I guess I'll go through, but I'm not gonna give you the money that I'm gonna spend gambling. So yeah, yeah, if I open the door myself do I need to tip you, but we had like that. We had the fancy shoes which sucked to stand, you know oh, I bet, we had like tuxedo rental shoes yeah, and so rock hard it was hard, even for like a young teenager.
Speaker 1But yeah, that was my gig. I I wouldn't say I had, I had some random jobs but I didn't like nothing bad, like, oddly enough, the the most fun I had was crack ceiling. Like have you ever done that like the road? Like road crack ceiling with a tar and this stuff like yeah, that sounds like it'd be kind of fun yeah, a buddy of mine like uh his dad owned a crack ceiling business.
Speaker 1Uh, in sherwood and um get up early like we do do, like we went to Eastern Oregon, did an airport like a small airport.
Speaker 2Oh nice.
Speaker 1Crack seal, you know. Yeah, it was like kind of fun.
Speaker 2Kind of satisfying, like instant gratification. You just get to see it all kind of come together.
Speaker 1And it was just good work. Like you came back and like all your jeans were like all burnt up and stuff, because the hot tar, you know it, sprinkles up on your jeans.
Speaker 2So you tar, you know it sprinkles up on your jeans. So you had like the. You just kind of felt like you worked, you know, yeah, and as a kid it just was kind of a good rewarding, totally rewarding. And then every time you drive past that road you tell your kids hey, you know what? That road right there.
Speaker 1I sealed that road well, I have a lot of respect for them. When I see it like people don't know what they are half the time it's just like a little tub of vat tar and yeah, like a little blowtorch out there yeah blowtorch. And so so, yeah, that's, uh, I guess, the most, I guess, interesting. I never had anything that I hated. Did you have any bad bosses? No, I don't think I have really ran into any bad bosses, but I did.
Speaker 2I will say, aside from the b job, um, just like, as that experience went on, I think the worst job that I had, and I don't even know if I should say the company, but I will. Door-to-door sales for comcast oh yeah that was.
Speaker 1I don't think you're gonna be the first one.
Speaker 2No, we're talking about time talking about that and that's not a dig on Comcast.
Speaker 1It's just door-to-door sales.
Speaker 2I am not a door-to-door sales guy and that is a very I mean. After a little bit you just get used to it like anything but man, that is one of those that's just uncomfortable. You're bugging people in the evening. It's raining out, they don't want to see you there and you're trying to tell them all the reasons why they should sign up for your service, and Comcast doesn't have a great reputation for their service, and so you're going and representing a company that people already are like.
Speaker 1I was on the phone for three hours with Comcast and no one's responded, and now they're, they're guys coming to the door to like you want like be, like hey, by the way, I have an issue like yes, I know you're selling me something but everybody had an opinion about comcast whether they had the service or didn't it?
Speaker 2was like and most of the time it was that the cost just kept going up and up and up and I'm like sorry, I'm just trying to get you to buy more. I know, but I tell you what. How about? We loop this around and exactly, yeah, no, we had.
Speaker 1Comcast for the longest time and then we just got got rid of it Cause it was. It was one, the pricing, and then two, just the customer service is hard when you run those huge companies, such a fickle thing like cable, that you know people are going to have issues. They're just, you know, and so it's not necessarily their fault. But, um, it's just one of those businesses that's hard to hard to keep customers, I'm sure absolutely especially with like netflix and all the stuff or all the streaming. Now you don't, you just basically need internet.
Speaker 1So but that's really it door knocking like I'm gonna get hate for this. But one I hate it. And two I just feel like it's old-fashioned. I know the agents do it and they're really successful at it, but you have to have that, I think. One you have to have a personality that matches that, that you don't care totally about yeah the no.
Speaker 1You're like boom next one, boom next one, and it's good like that's. I'm not knocking what you do, I just for me. I'm like it just seems I would never answer the door for it, you know yeah I think that's the hard part people that are like don't have an agent that you know or had a bad experience, and you're schmooze them off their feet and they're like okay, let's work with you, but I just feel like it's not something, that's not a marketing tactic that I would use for anything that someone came door to door with me.
Speaker 2Like I'd be like why why are you here?
Speaker 1Just send me an email or call me or something.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, I feel like you'd have to kind of go into it just with more of a. I'm just doing this to talk to people and get my information out there, not expecting to get anything from it, but because I did that a lot when I first because right before I got into the mortgage business the job I had prior to that I'd go to a lot of businesses.
Speaker 2I'd even go to apartment complexes, take like a down payment assistance flyer and just go through there and knock a lot of apartments don't like that. But I'd go through there and leave flyers and walk neighborhoods and just talk to people and it's kind of a fun way to go If you're just like, if you're in the right mindset for it, if you're like desperate for something, it's not great.
Speaker 1But if you're just like, hey, you know what, I'm just going to go out and talk to people and see where it goes, and I'm sure and again, there's really successful agents that do it all the time. Oh yeah, so I'm not not knocking the tactic, I just I I just don't have a personality bill for that. I'm like a closer, I'm not like a opener. Right, yeah, I'm like do you want real estate? Not really. Okay, see you later. Yeah, I don't either. I'm an agent, right? Yeah, I just don't have that Like.
Speaker 2I'm a slow burn.
Speaker 1You know people like me after they get to know me.
Speaker 2Right, yeah, yeah, no. I think that that's, and that's the nice thing about it is like everybody's got their own different styles and ways to go about it. And did you ever so? Since we grew up in the same area, did you ever do any like summer jobs bucking hay or moving irrigation?
Speaker 1I was such a pansy and I hate that and I wish I did like. Looking back, I think that it's not. It's not that I didn't try to do it, it just I got into, oddly enough, lifeguarding very early. Oh, that's right, it it just I got into, oddly enough, lifeguarding very early, that's like a 15 year old.
Speaker 1So I got, I was interested in it, I had swam. You know, we had swam my sister, my brother and my sister when my dad was traveling in the military. We swam a lot and we're pretty good swimmers. And then we moved to Oregon. It was just a natural thing to say, okay, I could get, I could be a lifeguard and just get my first aid, get my lifeguard training and so when.
Speaker 1I was 15, I got my lifeguard training and so I worked at the Carlton Pool every summer, even through college I worked at least one summer, maybe when I was in college. But yeah, and I worked in Corvallis when I was in college, I worked at the Osborne Aquatic Center, I worked at the YMCA in Sherwood. So I had that like with the lifeguarding thing. It's unique enough to where.
Youth Jobs and Different Generations
Speaker 1It was like I had a job pretty easily and so absolutely on the farms was not my thing, but I do yeah my brother didn't miss anything. My sister did it, like everyone did it with the clofels like, yeah, work in their farm, yeah, yeah. And the Bansons, they loved it, yeah, yeah, they loved it. It was good hard work, like, but you like, you had no time to spend your money, like you you worked and then you just made it at the end of the summer.
Speaker 2You're like okay I have a ton of money at the end of the summer.
Speaker 2But you did right, yeah yeah, that was a lot of my summer work in high school was was either moving irrigation or bucking hay, and it was yeah, it was usually two times a day Like you go out early in the morning and move irrigation lines and then, like for the Bansons, I'd go out there like some of the stuff that I look back on as we run our kids around to do all the things. It gives you sympathy, cause I remember my mom would wake up and take me over there at like six in the morning so that we could move irrigation lines and then I'd hang out at their house for for the afternoon and then we'd we'd move the lines again at one o'clock and it was, it was fun. It wasn't anything that was oh, this is the best job ever but it was fun yeah.
Speaker 2Cause it was always with friends and you're just kind of hanging out doing it and you're outside and it's summertime, but yeah it was a fun thing. But like I look, looking back at that and then looking at my kids, I'm like man, I'm trying to find them stuff like that, but it's, it's it's hard to imagine that they're gonna be for it like no, they're not ready for it.
Speaker 1I'm lumping your kid into my, my kids, but it's like we talk about it all the time over here, like the life they live is completely different like yes if I told. Like my nephew lives in Carlton does the farming already.
Speaker 1It's like 13 year old kid like awesome, just hard work, like you know, raising pigs, like doing the man, like man, farming stuff. Like I was joking with one of my friends, I was like I don't know if my son knows how to start a lawnmower, like right don't know, even if he knew how he could do it. And I'm like our kids are just so spoiled like right, it's not, it's not a great word, because it's not like they, you know, are given everything, but it's just a different environment, like totally different yeah, I don't know well, and you think about, like, where we grew up, when we grew up, it was there, wasn't, you know, there weren't stores.
Speaker 2I mean, yeah, there were a couple stores, a couple gas stations, but it's like outside of that you didn't really have.
Speaker 1You didn't have an access in carlton eml too yeah, there's not a bunch of fast food restaurants.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, or things where you could just go okay, I'm gonna go do this. It was like all right. Well, who of my friends need you know their family?
Speaker 1because everybody's always looking for yeah, yeah, for cheap labor and people to move everything around for them.
Speaker 2And then you get into that and it's like okay, well, this is now I know what I can do every summer for work, For sure. And then just stay in that groove.
Speaker 1Now it's like, yeah, and he's like the kids now, like he's doing good. Him and his buddy started a car washing business last year with the help of his older cousin, Evan, and he helped him like get all the equipment and they legit walked around neighborhoods knocking on door knocking, saying do you? Want me to wash your car and I thought, it would be a fad.
Speaker 1Within a week they'd be done. They did it all summer, really, and they had recurring clients. Good for them. It's just funny. We were just joking about that. But I was like, in honesty, yeah, if I put a lot more out there and start it, you'd be like don't even know where's the push button. Like what's the like? Where's the button to turn it on. Do I have to plug it in? What's going on here?
Speaker 2do I push x or y, or like where's the joystick here?
Speaker 1man. So I don't know random tangent, but yeah, yeah, um, I think it, you know. But it all, all everything you do in life, I think, helps you kind of get to where you are. I think you become the person you are based on all the, all the jobs and the hardships you went through with that stuff. So yeah, without those, things we wouldn't be where we are now.
Speaker 2Yep, all good learning experiences, all different ways to understand. I think I think so much of it, too, is just like figuring out what you like to do. Even if you don't like that summer job that you had or did, it's like all right, well, I made money, I worked hard and I learned that I don't ever want to do that again.
Speaker 1Yeah, and so next summer I'm going to try something different, for sure, for sure. It helps you kind of narrow down what you like doing and and generally what you like doing and do you like interacting? With people Do you like working alone? Do you like you know? So it helps the life, the life guarding was good. There was some jobs that I had that were like pretty antisocial and that you were kind of working yourself and I realized I'm not that person. I don't like. I like having people around me.
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Speaker 2So yeah, I go back and forth. I could do. I think I could do a good mix of both. Yeah, cause I I've had some jobs where it was really just me for the best part and I didn't really mind it too much. But then I have, then you know, you're in jobs where there's people and you can interact and I'm like, okay, this is, this is much better than just being alone. But I think sometimes it's just kind of nice to put in some music and just do your thing for the day oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1No, I get that. Well, man, our our pitch. If you guys want to be on venture, please join us, and we'd love to have people on and talk and have different voices than Cody and I, and we can talk about whatever you want. So I was thinking about having some previous guests on just to kind of go over just random topics. I loved our one last week, but it'd be fun to just go over the random stuff. So yeah.
Speaker 1Would you rather with other people? Exactly, exactly, yeah, okay, well, uh, it's good to see you, man, and until next time we'll uh chat with you later.
Speaker 2I like it.
Speaker 1Sounds good, see ya, all right.
