Venture With Joe and Cody

How Social Media Warps Our Spending And What To Do About It

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The feed is loud, and it keeps telling you to buy faster, flex harder, and level up now. We take a breath together and walk through the quieter work of making money decisions that serve your life, not your image. With a steady market backdrop, we talk openly about the hidden financial stress many people carry while trying to look stable online, and why comparison warps what “normal” looks like for homes, cars, and lifestyle.

From the lending desk, Cody shares what real budgets reveal: stacked credit cards, car notes, and student loans that leave thin margins for a safe mortgage payment. We break down how emotion overrides the plan, how social proof pushes you toward rushed decisions, and simple ways to pause: sequence debt, model payments in slow months, and test whether a purchase fixes a real problem or just performs success. Joe brings a candid story about nearly chasing a bigger, newer house and how reframing value—neighbors, school access, and a yard the kids love—beat the allure of the flex.

We also tackle the image tax in client-facing work. Cars become proxies for competence, yet the priciest choice can cost you twice—once at the bank and again in headspace. We share practical guidelines for finding the honest middle, plus an approach to social media that prioritizes teaching over teasing, process over polish, and authenticity over imitation. Treat your feed like research, not reality, and let your values set the pace for upgrades, moves, and marketing.

If this conversation gives you permission to slow down, strengthen your plan, or unfollow a few noisy accounts, that’s a win. Subscribe, share this with a friend who’s feeling the pressure, and leave a review with the one money rule you live by—we’ll feature our favorites on a future show.

SPEAKER_02

Hey guys, we're back with another episode of Venture with Joe and Cody. I'm Joe Skipper, the owner of Skipper Realty Group, brokered by EXP Realty and Cody Wellhelm with Residential Mortgage. What's up? Absolutely. How you doing? Oh, good, good, good. Just living the dream here, man. Just uh new year, things picking up in the real estate world, the rates coming down slightly. Yeah. So yeah, things are looking good. I like it.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Kind of just like it feels like things have really leveled out overall, just over the last three or four months or so. Like so it's kind of it's kind of been nice overall. I think that that normalcy starts to provide a little bit of consistency maybe for the spring and summer coming up, but overall feels like things are heading in the right direction.

SPEAKER_02

So for sure. Can't complain. Well, I wanted to talk today, speaking of abnormalcy, but going the opposite direction. Yes, abnormalcy.

Market Cooldown And Mood Check

SPEAKER_02

Is kind of the financial stress that no one really talks about in our society. And just I guess what I'm meaning is kind of I think that we have this hidden uh I think we have this hidden world or a world that we show other people financially and emotionally and stability-wise that may not be the case, but we have to live it all the time because everyone's living it. For example, you know, I would say that for social media, for example, I don't follow a lot of real estate agents. And not because I don't like them, not because I don't want to see what they're doing, but man, that subliminal like message to you as an agent when everyone shows on social media how successful they are,

Naming The Hidden Money Stress

SPEAKER_02

yeah, you know, it's it takes a toll on you. And so I think I wanted to get into like that kind of financial, the the behind the scenes of the financial stress that people I think face more than we.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it makes sense, and I can I can resonate with that a lot because obviously in my side of the business, I'm looking at people's financials, I was just thinking of that what they're spending on a monthly basis, yeah, on credit cards, car loans, student loans, everything, right? And so I I see stuff all the time where I, you know, not in a judgmental way, but just more of like, man, I don't know that buying a house is really the best thing for you right now. Like, there's a lot of debt that you could get cleared out. And I think the part that ends up getting people, and this could be with anything, this could be buying a car or making any big financial decision, is like the emotion that's tied to it that overrides your your kind of normal thinking to say, is this a responsible

Social Media’s Success Theater

SPEAKER_00

thing? Is this the thing that we should be doing right now? Maybe do we wait? Do we pay a couple of other things off? But I saw this house and I love it and I want to buy it. Yeah. I think it's uh I think social media plays into it a lot too. Um, I mean, I I see that in my own life, right? Where it's like you see people that that look like they have everything put together. Yep, yep. Um, but then when you know them on a on a personal level or you know somebody that does, and it's like two completely different lives, and I feel like that is the case a lot, but it doesn't make it any easier for you to not go, oh man, you know, they have everything. I know.

SPEAKER_02

I don't have much. It's uh it's such a weird thing. And even as you mention it, um a personal example comes up to me, but also one from a marketing standpoint. Um uh uh head of a marketing firm that I'm friends with for real estate agents, he mentioned, he's like, you would be surprised at how many successful, and maybe they are successful, successful real estate agents have to pay me late because they don't have the funds coming in until a closing of the house. Or, you know, he's like, someone that you'll see online that's like, hey, I want to be that agent. I want to be that right, you know. He's like, they're the same ones saying, Hey, can I get you next month? Because I can't make the payment on that marketing, that marketing

Inside Borrowers’ Budgets And Emotions

SPEAKER_02

ad. Like, yeah, isn't that crazy? Like it like really hit me, and that's what made me think really kind of get introspective of like, you can't look at social media as a comparison tool. You can look at it as a research tool or say, hey, this agent does this really well. Look how many things they get. Let me see if I can adapt that. But if you're going in there with an insecure mindset, man, and not even just in the real estate world, like we were talking in our live stream about you know, things that felt rich back then and now are normal and traveling and vacations and all that stuff. It just bleeds into your whole like persona to be like, man, Cody's going to Hawaii once a year, you know, every single year they're going and look at that perfect family and look at this like place they're staying at. And it's like, why can't we do that? You know? Yeah. It's not a healthy thing, man. Not a healthy thing. It's not at all. And I think we live it. I don't think we even consciously think about it, unless you do consciously think about it. I think if you are just looking like we just live that constant comparison life now that we didn't have to do when we didn't have social media. Like we always compare to school, or you knew the kids at school, or you knew the families in town or whatever that were rich, and that was that. Like, yeah, and you had maybe a little bit of envy that you're like, Man, I wish I had that. I wish my family had this. But man, we live it now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Did you see their whole lives now instead of like you were talking about? You know, we'd see the car that they had in high school or something, and it was like nicer than most of the other kids, or something. But outside of that, maybe you went to their house once, or or you know, you go to a movie and they always had the money to buy the popcorn and the candy and all the space, and you came with five bucks to for a movie and whatever snacks you could have. But yeah, now you're seeing inside their house, inside their cars, inside their their whole lives. And if it looks really nice, then you're like, that's what that's what it's supposed to look like. That's what I'm supposed to be trying to achieve. And I mean, you hear stories about it all the time of uh people that uh you know, whether it's social media or it's just life, they seem happy, everything seems great, but on the inside, they're like they're dying on the inside and they're miserable, and they're and it's just I think that the the view of uh nice things and money always uh seems to translate to people as happiness, yeah. And and it doesn't. And I know tough tough to keep up with the Joneses when you can't. For sure.

SPEAKER_02

And I would always argue like I don't think people do it, I don't think people post on purpose to like make everyone else jealous. They want to just post to their friends and show, like, we have a great time and you know, whatever, and that's totally fine. We do the same thing. Sure. But I do think, especially with with generations growing up, like, man, just living that constant stress of like, look what they do, look like look what they have, look what they've got. And it's not just like you said, in in a small town,

Comparison, Envy, And Daily Feeds

SPEAKER_02

you might see it once, and then it goes away, and then you're like, whatever. But now you're like, every time you open your phone, someone's doing something better than you. Like something bought something better than you, someone invested more than you, someone just got the next house. And I just wanted to talk if you have a second about our personal thing. Like, we didn't even plan this to talk about, but I'm gonna bring up uh a very specific thing with Christina and I with homes. Um, and we you and I have talked about, you know, potentially buying a home. As a real estate agent, you see homes all the time. Like you see the better ones, you see the nicer ones, you see the bigger ones. And only until recently, so we live in a in a 90s style like home in a 90s style neighborhood. Beautiful neighborhood. Everything like is very clean, well kept. We remodeled this home and still continue to put work into this home. So it's a nice home. It's nothing that it's got what we need, it's got everything we need. Yeah, but we got into a trap very recently of like, man, like what would it be better to just have that nice brand new home, that nice lot, that nicer area, that nicer this, that, that. And we always were talking, and without even thinking about it, we were always talking, like, well, our house just has we're on a cul-de-sac, we can kids can ride to school. Cora's got friends on the cul-de-sac. So in the summers they can go out, blah. So we kept going back and forth, but it was always that desire. And I think looking back on it, it was that subliminal desire to show people my success, you know, to show, like, look, I'm good enough. I got this, this house. You guys are all getting houses, but look at my house, you know, and and it took us a long time, and I don't think we ever, you know, it wasn't ever talked about consciously. But when we kind of finally settled into like, look, this house works for us. It's a great house. We can fix it up how we want to fix it up. It's got a big size backyard, it's got, you know, and you start to like convince not convince yourself, but kind of look inwardly to be like, do we need to do this? You know, um, do we need to buy the new house just to buy the new house? Because that's what everyone's doing. Yeah. And so, yeah, we just kind of resorted, like just recently, to the fact of like, look, let's just stay here. Like the kids only have a few more years of being in school, like close enough to the school. We love this house, we love our neighbors, we love this. And if something comes up, it comes up. But like, we didn't we had to really focus on what is what's making us go for this next thing. What is it? Is it us truly needing an extra bedroom, or is it a truly needing like something, or just really wanting? You don't have to just need it, but were we like truly wanting it, or were we wanting it to show? Like, but and and that really like kind of hit me even as we were talking of like, man, that is exactly what we just went through, like of that kind of subliminal thought of like, oh, I need to do better, I need to get better, I need to show more, I need to show everyone this. And I don't think we ever consciously thought that when we were looking for a house. But now that I think back on it, I think that influence was there of like, yeah, everyone else is doing it. We got to show them we can do it. Sure. Yeah. And it's just this competitive competitiveness almost of like, I I can do it. And we can, but we're not there, there's no need. There's no right need to do it. So, anyways, your thoughts on that.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I think it's I think it's probably true to to everyone, you know. Sometimes it's sometimes there's the time to think about it and and process it and understand and go, okay, like you did. All right, maybe it would be awesome, but maybe let's just wait a little bit longer and you know, if the right thing happens, it happens. But if not, like let's just pump the brakes here. But it is really hard when you have people that you, especially people that you know, that they're like, oh man, they they got this house and they got this place that was wow, that would be so nice. And then it's kind of like it just fuels that fire of of whatever it is. I

The “New House” Temptation

SPEAKER_00

slight pivot on this, but I back in I don't remember what year it was, maybe 2020, somewhere right around there, mortgage business, everything's going great. I had always had bad crappy cars, never really cared what I drove. It was never I've never been a I I enjoyed cars, but I've never been a car guy, so I'm not like you know, I gotta have this. And I bought a brand new truck, and I was never gonna buy anything brand new. But it was like, okay, I can do this and and it makes sense. And after I had it for a couple years, the mortgage market slows down a little bit, and it got to the point where I'm like, wow, I feel like I'm one of those people that I look at and I'm like, why are you paying a car payment like that? Like that's crazy. And it made me realize part of it was, you know, I I've never had a nice car before. So cool, I got to experience that that nice new car. Was the payment worth it? I hated the fact that every time I'd see a new little scratch, I was like, I didn't have that when I bought it, right? Like, yeah, I I almost disliked it so much, even though it was nice and it was new and it was everything that I wanted. But it definitely comes with a price too of like, is this worth it for me just to have something that's that's nice? Sure, it's cool overall. Like I that whole process, I will never say this now. I still stick with it, I will never buy a brand new vehicle again. Yeah. I might buy something a little bit newer, but it's just it's hard to not when you know, take your your house example. Everybody has newer cars, everybody has nice stuff, and it's like, oh man, it'd be kind of cool to have a nice new truck, and then you get other people that are like, you deserve it, you should do it. For sure. I don't know if I should or not, but yeah, let's do it. It's hard to just to like say, no, that doesn't make sense. Why would I do that? Sometimes you almost just have to experience it. For sure. All right.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and I think like yeah, on the car standpoint, uh in the real estate world, it's that same thing, and that's you know, I still struggle with that, not necessarily in a in a lack of confidence in what I drive. I know it sounds super superficial, but real estate agents are in their cars driving to see people that they might not ever know. So there's a very well, I don't know if there's a balance. I I try to find the balance of showing success, but also not being so bougie that it's like, you know, people are like, ugh, you know. And some agents are like, I don't care. I'm going the the full bougie route, and that's maybe the clientele they deal with. And then some agents don't care at all, which I don't think is maybe healthy either. So it's always this like in the car world, at least in the real estate world, I struggle with like, okay, how do I show it but not show it? I don't want to show it. Like my personal view on a car is I don't want to show any, you know, I don't have that desire to be like, look at me. Yeah, yeah. In this world, I have to. And so I always struggle with that. Like it's it's one of the more stressful purchases I make in a car because it's like I also have to be, I just want to be a normal person. I don't want anyone to feel like, oh, you're that guy, like that has this and has that. And and then, you know, when when I get compliments on my car, I'm like, oh, it's not that bad. Like it's not that, you know, like you're gonna like downplaying it. Yeah, sure. Because I just don't personally like it, but in the in the world that that there is that competition to show that okay, like you gotta show success,

Wanting To Show Success Vs Need

SPEAKER_02

like in that and that's that's the tricky part, right?

SPEAKER_00

It's like you you have to you don't want to show up in an old beater, even if it's what you would drive, because then they're gonna be like, Have you ever done real estate before? Like, I know do you make any money? Do you have you ever sold a house?

SPEAKER_02

Because people make assumptions based on what you will on what you drive uh in that world, like because you're driving up to them. It's like most places you pull into a big office building, no one sees your car, and no big deal. But uh, in our world, particularly, we're meeting on site, and so people are seeing that. So I've always struggled with that because I get very resistant. I don't want to say I have any more confidence than anyone else, but I get very resistant to comparing myself to others. Like I don't like doing it, and I kind of that's why I don't follow agents. I just don't, it can put me down a path that I don't want to be on, and so I really don't like doing that. But and so struggling with cars is is a big deal for me because I'm like, I want to find the right balance of not being an a-hole that's driving like you know, a Range Rover for no reason, like because if any any review from a mechanic on a Range Rover is like you're just doing it to show you're rich. Yes, but the money pit. The the car I'd like with you know, a little Toyota would be great. Like, but it's like also you're like, okay, so all sorts of theories on that. But man, it just it's a strong, it's a strong thing in today's society to be comparing yourself in personal and work life to every single other person. Yeah, like it's just shocking to me when we do have a chance to sit down and talk about it. But I do feel like, you know, my and I'm not good at this, so I'm not like offering suggestions as I'm like some counselor is my like the the housing thing really helped Christine and I to take your time with something and kind of really evaluate. It's not gonna be an overnight like let's sit and talk about it and then make an answer. It's like I think it took us months to kind of just be like, look, what are we doing it for? Like, again, do we need a big, bigger house? Like, no, our house is big. It's got the bedrooms we need, it's got an extra guest bedroom, it's got everything we need. So you we just went through these checklists, and then I I think without answering the question or without really realizing it, is like, are we just trying to compare ourselves? You know, are we trying to be better than someone else or you know, show this person? Not that we'd be doing it maliciously, but to be like, yeah, okay, like Cody's gonna see this online, new house, like, you know, look at our look at our cool, our cool new house and our family's perfect, and we've got the little dog and we've got the white picket fence, you know. And yeah, it's just so unrealistic. Like when you look at it yourself, you know, you post everything. You're never gonna post bad things about yourself online, but exactly. Yep. You can internally see like you don't have a perfect life, even though you're posting perfect life on your stuff, but you don't ever see that like that person's probably not got a perfect life. You're like, no, they

Cars, Image, And Real Costs

SPEAKER_02

must have a perfect life. Look, they've got all the success, all the you know, all the houses, all the cars, all the whatever. Yeah, and you know, they're better than me. Just an interesting, interesting life we're living in.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it totally is, and it's all out there, and I feel like the nicer your things get, the nicer, the better your situation is, the more you're likely to post about whatever it is, right? Like if you're living in a in a little junky apartment and it's messy, you're probably not gonna be doing a lot of videos and promoting yourself in that environment. You're gonna go to a a nicer place. And so it's I think it is just a lot of it's it's just a lot of fake. Yeah, you know, it's it's real, they're real people, but it seems like a very fake. I struggle with social media a lot with just getting on and being engaged with it because of a lot of that, where I feel like it's half of it is ads, and the other half of it is uh just people showing all the crazy cool things that they're doing. For sure. I uh, you know, when it comes to the business side, I I definitely went through a uh season. It was back in 23, like 22, 23, when it was the the the hardest for me personally, and I had to really like take that time to disconnect and stop comparing myself to other people that were still finding a way to be successful when I wasn't, and you're kind of like self-doubt, what's going on here? Maybe I suck at this job, maybe maybe the only reason I was any good was because the market was good and I don't know what I'm doing. I didn't feel that way deep down inside, but it kind of, you know, when you see other people that are doing the same job as you and having more success than you, it's hard not to compare yourself and then feel like I'm a loser. I can't apparently I suck at doing this, and then it takes probably just like with everything, it takes time to just kind of go, all right, I can only control what I can control, and I'm gonna stop comparing myself. Good for you guys for being able to to weather this storm better than I can, and you're able to still continue to see success here. Uh I just gotta figure out what my pivot point is or what what to do here. But it took me a long time of like for sure, it does of just kind of going, man, I'm I'm the worst, I gotta be the worst loan officer in the world. Yeah, because everybody else is better than me. And I took my wife honestly telling me maybe you need to figure out like if this is the right thing for you to do. And at that point, I've been in the business for like 10 or 11 years. I I'm like, no, this is good. And so it took that kind of harsh reality of like like kind of a verbal slap in the face of yeah, get out of your own head or do something different because I'm tired of seeing you this way. I know, and it took that realization of like, all right, well, I don't want to change what I'm doing, so I guess I just need to focus on what I what I can do and stop comparing myself to other people. But for sure.

SPEAKER_02

And I think happened to that, honestly, probably, Cody, is like that that coincided probably with when lending in real estate started hitting the social media market. Because I think you guys like especially were not in a time lenders didn't get online, it wasn't you never saw a lender online ever. And so I think that was the time,

Image Pressure In Real Estate

SPEAKER_02

at least generally speaking, that it started picking up that hey, I need to market online, you know, or show myself online as a lender and real estate agent. Yeah. Which if if you're not in it, then you're like, shoot, I have missed the ball, like you know, and I am not doing, but it's it, yeah, I think two things. One, it's a perceived success. Like, I don't I I kind of come at social media on a personal and a and a work uh work mode of it's perceived. Like, look at it, be like, I enjoy. I'm glad they are doing that. I don't know how good they are. I don't know how successful they are. They could be doing two deals a year. Who knows? Like, and that's fine if they want to do that. Like, I kind of have to consciously think that way. And that's the same with vacations or friends or whatever. It's like, great. I'm glad they can do that. But I also think like, I don't know if it's age and confidence or or confidence, just getting more confidence in the in the line of work I'm in, or confidence as an adult, you know. I've just been able to process it in a different way that I think even years ago I wasn't able to process that. Like it was always comparing versus now it's like, I don't, I don't have to like it's great for them. Like it's great. I'm right. I'm meeting my goals, I'm meeting my family goals, I'm meeting my work goals. What else am I looking for? You know, like so yeah, I think it's just it's kind of it's kind of looking at social media in a different way. And I think I was kind of in a similar boat to you. Is when you're new, well, you weren't new, but I think for you that was that pivotal point of social media, I think. Yeah. For lending. For sure. But for me, it was like a new, I was newer. And I think I was I guess I was newer around that time too, of like in the industry. So then you see people online and you're like, dang it, I don't even know what I'm doing as a real estate agent, let alone like have to post on social media that I'm successful at it. Uh-huh. And so yeah, it's I don't know where I'm going with it, but it's a crazy world. I would say to anyone that's in the new or or struggling in that social media realm is is really take a look at and and just know confidently that at least half the people posting there are not as successful as they as they're saying they are.

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um yeah. Just just assume it because I know it's hard to do, but man, they'll post a lot and they could be successful, or they probably aren't, like, or probably aren't as they're making it out to be, is right. More maybe what I'm saying is like they may be posting that they're doing X, but they're maybe just doing half that.

SPEAKER_00

So uh anyway. Well and I know I know not personally, but I know of a lot of athletes that are they don't even they don't even get on social media because all the crap that you're gonna see for sure probably not in a comparison mode, but just like you're a public figure, you're you're how many people are willing more willing to post negative stuff versus positive comments and stuff, and they're like, I don't even have social media, I don't get on there. I don't know unless one of my friends or somebody tells me about it, I I kind of just like block it all out and just try to live my live my life. And I think there's a there's definitely a healthy balance of figuring it out and not uh not consuming too much as a comparison, but also like getting on there and and posting on there and being part of the machine is is needed and necessary.

SPEAKER_02

It is a it's a necessary marketing tool for sure for real estate and lending. But it's yeah, getting wrapped up in it and comparing yourself to everyone else is the worst thing you can do uh in this industry is comparing yourself to any other agent because you're not any other agent, you are or lender, you're your own person that has your own personality that has people that are going and want to work with you because of your personality. And I remember we've talked about this before as someone it sounds so cheesy and and simple, but they were like, be yourself online. The best thing you can do is be yourself online because if you are faking it, people will see it. Sure. Or if they don't see it, you'll get clients that like you or fake you, and they're not gonna, and so when they meet you, you're gonna be a different person than what they thought you were getting. And so it doesn't help you in many ways to be like, we've talked about

Confidence, Authenticity, And Posting

SPEAKER_02

it, like me driving Lamborghini up to a house. It's like I can't, I can't do that. Maybe down the road, uh that will be normal for me, and I'll be like, everyone will be like, yeah, Joe drives a Lamborghini. But right, if I did right now, I'd have every friend on it would go viral for all the wrong reasons because every one of my friends would be commenting, that's not your car.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, exactly. And what are you doing? Whose car did you rent?

SPEAKER_02

So it's really just like being yourself on social media and just accepting that you're gonna get the clients that you want that like you as a person and you'll be you'll be successful, whatever your success is defined as. But I think that comes with a little more confidence.

SPEAKER_00

Totally.

SPEAKER_02

And I don't say that negatively to people that do struggle. It's not like I think you're not a confident person, but man, social media is a tough place to compare yourself. Right? I think even the most successful people have a tough time comparing themselves to other successful people. So that's why you see like people like super wealthy people. Like I think of like in the watch industry or the clothes industry, it's like super wealthy, like Facebook, like they're wearing jeans and t-shirt. They don't have to impress anyone. Like they don't have to they go around just like being a normal person because they don't have to prove anything to anyone, and I think that mentality is a good one to have. It's like be yourself because you don't have to prove anything to anyone else.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like seeing Adam Sandler. Every time I see a picture of Adam Sandler, he's in like these oversized basketball shorts and a and a button-up, like I love it, uh Hawaiian shirt.

SPEAKER_02

And I love him for that because I think that he he's a great example, and I'm glad you brought it up. He's a great example of just massive amounts of success, massive amounts of money, massive, like he could do whatever he wanted and show everyone how amazing he is, you know, with the fancy clothes and the watches and whatever. And it's like he's just a dude. And I love that totally is like just a great example of not care giving a crap what other people think. So that's a great way to end this because it's like, yeah, Adam Sandler's a great, great example of that success. And yeah, not flaunting it and not really caring what other people do.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I see more and more, like every once in a while, see these little snippets, usually sports related. And like I saw one and it was Justin Jefferson, um, and he's you know, I don't know what his his net worth is or his contracts or anything, but I know it's a lot, and it was showing his house and it was like a hundred and fifty thousand dollar home. Just a very normal standard. I mean, granted, the guy will wear a million dollar necklace while he's likes what he likes, and that's fine. And he likes it exactly. But it's like I think that there's there's and that's probably just life, right? Like we sacrifice some certain things financially to be able to do the other things that we want to do. You want to have a really nice house, you just might have to sacrifice doing the vacations and having all the other nice things, or vice versa.

SPEAKER_02

But it's it's just don't do it and you don't do it to show everyone else. Like exactly to show everyone else how cool you are. If you if you like you know nice clothes, that's great. You know, if you like nice cars, that's great, but don't do it because you're thinking that's gonna impress right, you know, people because you'll just get disappointed. Yeah. So I go Costco. That's cool, man. Well, it was a good talk. Yeah, I know. I I don't know what mine. I think it's a dick's sporting goods, like some brand, like sweatshirt. But yeah. Uh well, I this is a good talk. I hope people got something out of it. I hope you can I hope some people can see that, like, hey, it's not, you know, let's it's not all it's cracked up to be, and don't look don't look at social media as a comparison tool. You can look at it as a place to support your friends and family and and other coworkers, but it's not a place to say, am I, am I, this is how I have to judge my success on life. Right. Because it's not there. And most you'll probably find is is not are not living actually that life they're portraying online. So Yep.

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I mean, look at us. We look like like millionaire successful people. I bought this microphone and mixer for 50 bucks on Facebook.

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Like people need to know, like we want people to know that we are super successful.

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That's all it is. Success.

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Yeah, I mean, look at the we have such good equipment that we have it goes, it breaks down every other time that we have have a show. So that's how

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that's how professional we are.

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I have a counterweight on my little microphone boom here because otherwise it just drops.

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You've got like a rope hanging with like an actual barbell, like just to keep it from falling.

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It almost is. It's actually like a roadside emergency car kit.

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I love it, man. I love it. Okay, well, it was good to talk to you. If you guys haven't already, like and subscribe to our pages, subscribe to our venture podcasts. We put these out weekly and just love giving you guys information on real estate and other topics that we enjoy talking about. So if you enjoy that, like and subscribe to our stuff. And until next time, Cody, we'll chat with you later. Let's do it. Sounds good. See ya, bro. All right, bye.